Born in San Francisco,
California, November 1, 1955, Percussionist, composer, writer
and educator John Santos was raised in the Puerto Rican and Cape
Verdean traditions of his family, surrounded by music. The fertile
musical environment of the San Francisco Bay Area shaped his
career in a unique way. His studies of Afro-Latin music have
included several trips to New York, Puerto Rico, Cuba and Colombia.
Widely respected as one of the top writers,
educators and historians in the field, Mr. Santos is a member
of the Latin Jazz Advisory Committee of the Smithsonian Institution
and has contributed to the international magazines Percussive
Notes, Modern Drummer, Modern Percussionist, and Latin Percussionist.
The San Francisco Bay Area community in which he still lives
and works has presented him with numerous awards and honors for
artistic excellence and social dedication. More information on
John Santos at www.johnsantos.com.
Interview by Bobby Ramirez
1) When you're conducting a lecture
on Latin Jazz, what are some of the most important points you
want your audience to comprehend?
That Jazz has strong Caribbean roots, that Latin music is a big
part of pop culture in the US, that the word 'America' is much
broader than we are led to believe, and that the spiritual and
historical foundations of Afro-Latin music are its most important
attributes.
2) What is your opinion on the current
state of Latin Jazz in the world today?
We must not be lulled into complacency by the music's current
popularity. There is MUCH to be done to inform the general public
as well as official institutions of education, as to the relevance
and value of this cultural artform. It continues to be sadly
under-represented and disrespected in the area of jazz education.
3) Where do you see the direction
of Latin Jazz heading in the next 10-20 years? Latin Jazz IS the future. It is already smashing
barriers and continues in its leading role as perhaps the first
'World Music,' through its fusion of styles, countries, cultures,
rhythms, and musical formats. It will continue to open people's
minds to the fact that music shows us how man-made boundaries
serve only to limit us. It will lead the way in the movement
to remind the world that music is a creative gift, full of wonder
and magic, and not about the polished 'products' that are highly
marketed and sold.
4) In your vast experience as a performer,
what are some of the more common misconceptions that people have
about Latin Jazz? That it is
only from one city or country. That it is a novelty, inconsequential
to learning or appreciating jazz. That it is a recent addition
to jazz. That it is narrow in scope and content.
5) Without taking into consideration
the cross-pollination of both genres, how would you characterize
Latin Jazz in relations to style and authenticity as oppose to
the classic Jazz musical idiom?
I find it difficult to look at them totally separately like that,
since the two things overlap so much and share such a parallel
history. Latino music and musicians have much to do with the
birth of jazz, and continue to be important elements in jazz
in the present as they will in the future.
6) In your website, you wrote that
"Latin Jazz is a classic American artform." Can you
elaborate further? Part of getting
people to understand the integral role of Latin culture in jazz
is to emphasize the extreme limitations inherent in the standard
interpretation of the meaning of the word "America."
People need to know that Central and South America as well as
the Caribbean, are every bit as American as North America (which
is where our country happens to be located), and that history
shows we have much more in common than we have differences. If
they are not aware of these facts (and most are not), then it
is our responsibility to challenge that colonial philosophy,
and the most effective case is made with the music.
7) When lecturing about Latin Jazz
especially to music students, from its fruition to its current
standing in the new millennium, what are some of your favorite
Latin Jazz CD recommendations?
una rumba columbia folklorica (Yoruba andabo or Rapsodia Rumbera)
Las Alturas de Simpson by Orq. Odilio Urfé
St. Louis Blues by Orq. Maravillas de Arcaño
'Mojito Criollo' by Frank Emilio
Sexteto Habanero
Louis Armstrong's 'Peanut Vendor '
'Rumba Rumbero' by Orq. Casino de la Playa
Machito with Bird
Diz and Chano
Arsenio's 'Tintorera'
1950s Tito Puente
1950s Tjader
1950s Shearing
1950s Bebo
'All The Things You Are' by Peruchin
Cachao 'Descargas en Miniatura'
'My Spiritual Indian' by Eddie Palmieri
'Tin Tin Deo' by Ray Barretto
'Las Margaritas' from Irakere
'En Aquellos Tiempos' by Batacumbele
'From This Moment On' by Giovanni Hidalgo
'Lamento Borincano' by David Sanchez
Danilo Perez
Ft. Apache
Omar Sosa
8) What have been one or two of your
most memorable collaborations performing and in the studio?
1.) Recording three records by/with El Maestro, Tito Puente during
the 1980s.
2.) Armando Peraza and Steve Turre on Machete's 1st recording
in 1987.
3.) Cachao, Chocolate, Vilató, Peraza, Santana, and Walfredo
de los Reyes with Machete in a show I produced called "La
Evolucion de la Música Afro Cubana" for the San Francisco
Jazz Festival at Davies Symphony Hall in 1989 (sold out 3,000
seats). Andy Garcia met Cachao at that event.
4.) Touring Europe with Cachao, Chocolate, Francisco Aguabella,
Vilató, Nelson Gonzalez, etc. in the early 1990s.
9) In your opinion, what are some
of the biggest challenges facing musicians that perform Latin
Jazz in the new millennium in terms of wide audience appeal? Same as always . . . surviving with the lack
of support and respect given by the mainstream industry and media
. . .
10) What are some of your favorite
books that you've read thus far?
My Music is My Flag by Ruth Glasser
La Música en Persona by Erena Hernandez
Del Canto y el Tiempo by Argeliers León
The Latin Tinge by John Storm Roberts
Nationalizing Blackness by Robin D. Moore
Race Matters by Cornel West
A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn
Conversations in Clave by Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez
Seeds of Change by H. Viola and C. Margolis
Faces of The Gods by Dr. Robert Farris Thompson
11) What have been the most inspiring
words of wisdom that you've heard/read from another musician
or someone else in your life?
Never point your finger at others because when you do, you have
three fingers pointing back at you. . . . an old African proverb
told to me by Babatunde Olatunji
12) What is your main source of inspiration
when creating music? Love